SH5 anti copy protection

[Phoenix 1957]

I hope they dont adopt this shit 

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=400102&f=1121062387&m=8111046728&r=9071066728#9071066728

[Carotio]

Well, i have allready decided that I won't buy it in March because of the lacking types and the 1943 end of war.
At least, I'm not going to pay full price for it. 

I will await to see it in the bargain bin, or maybe if they make an add on with the missing types and years at a fair price. 

The anti-piracy thinghy, well it depends how it will look in the end. SH4 got it removed by the third patch, so it may happen for SH5 too. Only time will tell... 

[Phoenix 1957]

Well, i have allready decided that I won't buy it in March because of the lacking types and the 1943 end of war.
At least, I'm not going to pay full price for it. 

I will await to see it in the bargain bin, or maybe if they make an add on with the missing types and years at a fair price. 

The anti-piracy thinghy, well it depends how it will look in the end. SH4 got it removed by the third patch, so it may happen for SH5 too. Only time will tell... 

I will just wait untill it is released as a supermarket bargin basement item before I buy it by that time the Protection should of been removed 

[Phoenix 1957]

So let me get this right.
(1) You will have to be connected to the internet to play SH5
(2) You will not be able to play any saved games unless you are on-line
(3) The only version of sub available is the type 7 (all classes)
(4) The war only go's as far as 1943
(5) The ships you are attacking will have damage bars showing above them
(6) You will be able to walk through the VIIC and interact with the crew
(7) The graphics of the game are improved over SH3

My Personal responses

(1) This screws anyone who has a slow connection or uses Dial-up.
(2) Kiss the last two hours of game play good bye the server has shut down for one reason or another.
(3) Disappointing as I like the IXC subs as well because they are more useful on convoy attacks having two rear tubes.
(4) So the players of SH5 are not expected to last any further then say mid 1942 then.
(5) Great so when you are attacking a target you will be able to imagine you are standing in a seaside arcade store playing the game on an arcade machine. will this mean you will have unlimited fast loading torpedoes to attack multiple targets at the same time if not then this feature is a waste of time.
(6) To make this worth anything it must randomize the responses of the crew and also react to orders given by the player or else it will become boring to say the least.
(7) From what I have seen this is true but if the rest is correct also this will also be a waste of time as most Sims players will not be seeing it as they will not buy the game.

Silent Hunter 1&2 I never played so no score       Unknown
Silent Hunter 3 (un-Modded)                                8/10
Silent Hunter 3 (fully Modded and with LSH3)          9/10
Silent Hunter 4 (un-Modded)                                4/10
Silent Hunter 4 (patch to 1.4)                              6/10
Silent Hunter 4 (Fully Modded)                             Unknown I got rid of it
Silent Hunter 5                                                 Not promising at this time for sure
                                                            Predicted score 4/10 (unless changes are made) 

So at this time SH5 is not worth buying unless you like arcade style games. 
I regretted buying SH4 and I will not waste money on this version as it stands 
Long live SH3 I say. 

[Phoenix 1957]

Is not the fundamental problem about DRM This...
If you buy for a game do you not own it anymore.
if the answer is yes the you should be able to play it when and how you want
and not have to log-in to play it.
if this is to continue then you should only pay a small amount of cash to use the server just like playing other internet games sites because this is what it is after all an Internet Dependant game.
If you expect me to buy SH5 then let me play it as I see fit   

[Carotio]

Well, I just posted this in the official facebook fan page, naively hoping the message will get through...

Since this is the official page for Silent Hunter, this message should get through. If Ubisoft really wants copyprotection, then have a look at the activation process of Windows. Within the first 30 days, the user activate the software ONCE, and it's validated every now and then when the user gets the updates. Ubisoft should definitely do the same. Much more user friendly. Just a good advice. As it is now - DRM/OSP or whatever - very few will buy it; me included. Thank you.

[Phoenix 1957]

How about selling the game to registered users
Then restricting the SH5 threads to the users that have purchase the game through legal channels IE. Ubisoft or on Subsim
then only allow updates or Mods to be show in the limited access threads.
no need for any other crap then.   

[Carotio]

Nice video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzGNd98Hjo8

[Phoenix 1957]

Thats priceless   

[Phoenix 1957]

Its all well and good going on and on about the internet thing But please take a step back and take a good long look at the videos that Neal has placed on SubSim.
Why you say well SH4 really did not appeal to every one because of the game play involved it had better graphics granted But it never produced that spark that SH3 has still got to this day.
The most important thing about the Silent Hunter series of games is THE ENJOYMENT OF PLAYING THEM.
Great "Eye Candy" is good for the short term but it will soon wears off so if the game play itself is not up to par the game will flop.

I myself will wait until I have seen something that proves to me this version is worth buying and to be quite frank I have not seen anything as of yet to make me want to so for me the internet thing is just one more nail in the coffin as far as SH5 is concerned.   

[Carotio]

New video about Ubisoft and DRM... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkTZTzsYoZs

[Phoenix 1957]

This would be quite a funny Video if it wasn't for the fact that DRM has ruined
a lot of players interest and enjoyment of playing any Silent Hunter Title. 
Why some people who don't understand or care would say its only one title.
lets put it this way from the first rumours last year that SH5 is on the way
it was said that the game series was returning to the Atlantic so myself and
possibly quite a few others imagined this would be an updated game version of SH3.
And to see the realised game in all its glory is a kick in the ass for any serious SH3 player.
This game should not even hold the name Silent Hunter to release a fault
ridden game such as this and expect others who are not employed by Ubisoft to
Fix it is ridicules to say the least I hope that anyone in there right minds will not
buy such a worthless piece of CRAP.   

[Phoenix 1957]

Looks like FM has got the right idea rip the good bits out of sh5 and put them in SH3 

[ZygmuntTorpedo]

Its a simply shit , that all DRM. I found a working soultion as a legal owner of a game. Look at my 2 posts one here and one in MODS section!

Have fun chaps

[Phoenix 1957]

Thanks for the information you have posted
But in all honesty its a dam shame this is necessary
in the first place